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    posted Wednesday, 8 March 2006
    Yes, the title of this piece is sure to be a bit provocative as the term Web 2.0 bottoms out with a vengeance in the infamous trough of disillusionment.  Those in the know realize it's no longer cool to say Web 2.0 in many technology circles.  Even the IT columnist blowhard John C. Dvorak lined up this week to take the obligatory swipe at Web 2.0, possibly to coincide with O'Reilly's latest talk about it at the sold-out Emerging Technology conference this week (best quote: Web 2.0 represents "people inside the machine".)   And Gibu Thomas just made a great set of observations about what people in general think about Web 2.0 taken from a group podcast made at the recent Naked Conversations launch partyUpshot: Most people actually equate Web 2.0 with an Ajax browsing experience.

    Strikingly, all this hand-waving and gnashing of teeth is over a whole lot of nothing.  I personally, though well known as a proponent of Web 2.0, am completely ambivalent about the term itself.  Like anything, it's what's actually happening that really matters and it just turns out that the term Web 2.0 is the best and most articulate vision of what we're seeing unfolding on the Web today.  And though some folks see many of the smaller startups as doomed to failure in a crowded market, it's much more about the bigger story of the billion people on the Web today and what they're doing.  Because they aren't going away.

    I look around at terrifically exciting technologies like Ruby on Rails (lightweight programming models), the community created tag clouds that are available on more and more sites (harnessing collective intelligence and folksonomies), pervasive syndication and Web servicing of content via RSS (small pieces, loosely joined and Web as Platform), and yes, even rich, immersive, roaming software (Ajax and RIAs).  These are all indicators of a larger trend:  The emergence of a social software super platform that rapidly evolves as reflection of its combined users and their information.


    Web 2.0 as the Social Software Super Platform


    Now, John Dvorak was right in one sense in his article.  That most people don't care about Web 2.0 and they never will, they just want to get things done. And a big piece of Web 2.0 is using the Web to do things yourself.  In this respect, I certainly agree.  The part where he's wrong is that the supply side of the equation has to know what the pieces of Web 2.0 are in order to create great online social software.  Web 2.0 really is design patterns and business models for the next generation of the Web.  Saying that Web 2.0 is purely about self-service is laughably naive, incomplete, and wrong-headed.  However, I do agree with John that a lot of this is "old wine in new bottles."  I've written extensively about this, probably the best in The Timeless Way of Building Software; what's old is new again though with a different twist and a whole lot more scale.

    Anyway, you're probably here to see how you know that you're Web 2.0.  Here are some ways.  And of course, you're always more than welcome to add all the ones I missed at the bottom.


    You Know You're Web 2.0 When...


    • You can easily comment on, or preferably, actually change the content that you find on a Web site.

    • You can label your information with tags and use them to find that information again.

    • Your Web page doesn't reload even once as you get a whole lotta work done.

    • You are actively aware of other users' recent activity on a site.

    • It's possible for you to easily share with others the information you're contributing on the Web site.

    • You can syndicate your information on a Web site elsewhere on the Internet through a feed like RSS or Atom.

    • You can pick and choose the pieces of a Web site that you like and then add that functionality to your own site.

    • There are easy ways to find out what content is the most popular or interesting at the moment.

    • You heard about a new Web site because a friend enthusiastically recommended it to you out of the blue.

    • There happens to be a mind boggling amount information and a lot of people on a site, yet it seems easy to find what you want and communicate with others.

    • Everything you ever added to a given Web site can be removed easily at your whim.

    • The Web site actively encourages you to share and reuse its information and its services with others.  And it even provides a license to do so.


    And of course there's a lot more and I can easily see how it might seem like people are throwing in the kitchen sink when they use the Web 2.0 umbrella term.  But the ideas really are linked together (again see the aforementioned Timeless Way of Building Software) and reinforce each other, often critically.  The good news is still that people don't have to understand much of this to use it, but we do, and must, in order to build it.  Start studying...

    So, long live Web 2.0, whatever the name.  Or, can we just build some great software with these ideas without arguing about the term?

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    1. Matt left...
    Wednesday, 8 March 2006 8:12 pm

    Dion. I have enjoyed reading your Web 2.0 analysis and especially your graphic explanations of trends in the social software/networking space. We just yesterday launched a company based on many (but not yet all) of the principles you mention. Its a parenting-advice sharing (and ranking) site and I would love to know your thoughts on it should it be of interest :) http://www.minti.com/


    2. Phillip W Edgar left...
    Thursday, 9 March 2006 1:31 am :: http://sixroadsend.wordpress.com/

    I love this post Dion, great stuff. I really have come to enjoy your views. I believed for some time now that the Web2.0 term would come to an end as the natural evolution of the space. This is the way of technology, from conception to buzz to death or category. The technologies and social paradigm shift associated with Web2.0 will remain and form the basis of an evolving category but the hype and buzz of the term, Web2.0, will disappear. The companies that survive will have successfully surfed the wave and yet know well when it was time to hit the beach and dig in with some great ideas/apps. Watching the evolution is exciting and I expect more changes sooner than later.


    3. Tony Karrer left...
    Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:37 am :: http://www.techempower.com

    It's funny to read about the debate on Web 2.0 as a term. I personally, strongly feel that there is something pretty big going on here. But, it has been going on for quite a while.

    Back in 1998, we started building software for Luna Imaging that eventually won the Webby in Technical Achievement beating google:

    Press Release

    The nominees in Technical Achievement are:

    David Rumsey Historical Map Collection -- features a GIS browser that allows detailed overlays of historical maps and current geospatial data.

    Google.com -- the popular search engine.

    Sony Digital Memory Stick -- tiny, mobile storage system for all digital media, including photos, music, movies, and data.

    REBOL Internet Operating System -- a real-time platform based on X Internet technology.

    Volantis System -- creator of software that enables businesses to create Web sites that can be delivered through any Internet-capable device.

    And the winner was the David Rumsey Map collection which exhibits many of the properties you describe - but was built pre-AJAX with lots and lots of JavaScript and a hidden frame. The net effect was impressive back in 2002 and is still what makes this stuff big.

    It probably doesn't matter what we call it, but let's recognize the value and power.


    4. Stu left...
    Thursday, 9 March 2006 6:25 pm :: http://www.devdawn.com

    Being the hype-monkey that I am, I like Web 2.0, Ajax, and all the stuff that comes along for the ride. But moreso, I like the ideas behind. As you state, "Web 2.0 really is design patterns and business models for the next generation of the Web". Awesome stuff .. right on the money.

    I'd like to think it goes further, although I'm not sure where this lies. But the emergence of the mashups of Desktop and Web software. I realise it is happening already, but I've been seeing web apps built and run by desktop software that are really quite amazing. Simple GUI, ISAM database design, and when combined with some Web 2.0 (Ajax-ee) functionality, rock.

    At least, that's what I'd like to see (or maybe already do, just don't know it) in the mainstream. I've created a couple in passing, testing out new tools on Clarion (dev tool used, amongst others).

    Rambling aside. Although I'm new to the game, it's exciting. And thanks Dion, for supplying us with consistently well written and sane pieces on what lies ahead.


    5. Ben left...
    Thursday, 9 March 2006 8:48 pm :: http://www.coinlogic.com

    One of my favorite parts of Web 2.0 is the ability to see other user's recent activity. I think that point alone make the world a much smaller place.


    6. tomek left...
    Saturday, 3 March 2007 4:58 am :: http://www.profesjonalna-reklama.pl

    but was built pre-AJAX with lots and lots of JavaScript and a hidden frame. The net effect was impressive back in 2002 and is still what makes this stuff big.